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Old 04-05-2005, 09:46 PM

A semi rant about the culture of life, and how we give up full freedom for security.

My question posed, for those who do not wish too read all i'll type below, is do you feel that as humans we give up our full natural freedom in order too preserve a sense of society and security?



I think that if you really look on this subject you'll see that we actually do choose too give up some freedoms and liberties in the name of order. I mean, we cant do anything and everything we want and rightfully so. Without rules we would have a full fledged chaotic world where anyone can do anything. You'd have people killing and murdering anyone they choose, rape would be abundant, and being beautiful would be more of a curse than a gift. So yes, we do actually give up freedom too preserve order and society and for a good cause but we also are getting a bit out of hand. The political correctness and all this bullshit is out of hand. We have freedom of speach, yet we cant say hes black? We have too say he's african american? Yet we are called white in turn and not caucasian american? So i guess my point is that while we do give up our full liberties and freedoms in the hands of others, we also are forgetting the essential reasons behind this, too preserve society, civilization, life, name your cliche. So, why is it that praying in a public school is botchi and the outrageous ability that is given too the government. If its someone wish too die with dignity and their pride in tact, then so be it. The government shouldnt be able too decide how one person is allowed too die. They sit there and say we are playing god by taking the feeding tube out and deciding how and when someone dies, but arent we playing god in the first place by placing it in? And the fact that the government can step and stomp all over states rights and individual rights we should all be entitled too is upsetting. I know that i dont want too be in a "persistant vegitative state" and i wouldnt want too be kept alive like that, but how do i know that the government wont condemn me too such a fate because they beleive something different than me. There is no "culture of life" because as humans we are all so individually different. We each have our own culture and way of living and thoughts and beliefs and our ways of expressing ourselves and who we are. My life experiances bring me up in a way different from you or my neighbor or my teachers. The culture of life isnt using artificial means too keep a shell technically alive when the soul and spirit isnt, the culture of life is allowing someone too live with dignity and the culture of life is giving someone mutual respect for their beliefs and who they are.

If i ever get in a car accident, or for some reason i deteriorate too the point where im in a "persisstant vegitative state" i hope i have someone i can count on too release me from the shell. I dont know if i believe in an afterlife or anything like that, but i do believe in some divine power and i have my own faith and i know that it isnt right for another too decide for someone else who cant fight for themselves. If Terry made her mind up about not wanting too be kept alive artificially, i think we should honor her wishes, not make her a public spectacle. The government was the ones at fault here, not the husband or the parents, because both just wanted what was best for Terry. I think that the government shouldnt have the ability too step into such a private matter like this case and i believe strongly that we need a far more stern and definitive line drawn than that we have now. We should be able too choose our own fates, and we shouldnt have others stepping in for us.

Thanks for reading my rant.
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Old 04-05-2005, 10:39 PM

That's what I told my mother. And she called me insensitive. Pshh.

Why would you want to continue living when you're so debilitated that you can't even speak, walk, or even think clearly. This woman was mentally disabled. She had spent the last 15 years of her life doing such tasks as sitting and staring at a balloon. Why would you put a person through such misery as to keeping them alive through a fucking feeding tube even? That's how bad things off things were for her. Had to be fed with a feeding tube.

It may be different for small children who are disabled. They have not yet experienced life as we know it, even though it is destined to be a rather cruel one. But this woman has lived her life. I seriously doubt she'd want to die of old age after many, many years of being artificially kept alive. I know I wouldn't...

But poeple such as my mother think differently. "You're cutting off someone's food supply and killing them" "That's cruel" yadda yadda yadda. I disagree.

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Old 04-05-2005, 11:06 PM

On the topic of race and keeping order. its fucking bullshit.

Especially if you look at college acceptances and race. I see it with all my friends, on of my good girl friends (very rich i might add) applied to this one school. She has decent grades, like a 2.3 and a 1200 SAT. But she got denied from that school (she is also caucasian). Now my old neighbor, who is half asian, she got accepted, and with a 2.0 gpa and like a 1040 SAT.

What i'm trying to say is this whole "equal rights" thing is bullshit. Colleges want the ethnicity into there population becuase they are told they are going to get more benefits. But truely, its crap. I also got denied from that school, which probably wouldnt have happened if i was any other race.

Now onto the feeding tube crap. The government was looking for some sort of huge story. They needed the attention because litterly nothing else is happening besides the war, which has gotten old to alot of people. Anyway, my point is, this trial should never have gotten as far as it did, and she should have been left off the feeding tube. Thank god they did too beucase if they put here back on i would have moved to canada. (canadian dollar is getting closer to americans anyway).
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Old 04-06-2005, 02:20 PM

The irony of the Shiavo case is that the christian coalition has no problem in sending off thousands of youth to perish in an unknown country, but cannot allow a woman, in a state I wouln't consider alive, to fully die. I think you've got the right idea in moving to canada sicloan.

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Old 04-06-2005, 02:50 PM

Im sorry if i offend any one when i say this but thoes freakin christians need a good fucking ass kicking. Their views are so fucking stupid. She was barely alive, keeping her alive like that for as long as they did seems like torture to me... she cant do anything for her self so how can you even call that living? lieing in bed for 15 years of your life... that isnt living at all, thats just being in a prison. I had a convo with my dad about these issues yesterday, and with the whole gay marriage thing, I cant see how the government should EVER be allowed to say who can marry who, espeically because bush feels its wrong on religous grounds. Seperation of church and state... thats sure as HELL not happening with bush, and even stem cell research.. its all a fucking load of shit to say no to it all because bush is a fuckin chrisitan.
and for the racial stuff... all a load of shit also. who gives a crap if they're black or asian, that seems like discrimination against whites if you ask me... god damn i hate this country. wanna move to england so bad ^^

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Old 04-06-2005, 04:20 PM

separation of church and state has always been a myth.

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Old 04-06-2005, 04:41 PM

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Old 04-06-2005, 08:52 PM

The government tries too fly shit through as riders, it tries too instill religion into people, its all bullshit.
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Old 04-07-2005, 01:34 AM

i agree with all of you people should be able to decide wen and how they die if they have a life that is totally not worth living like being in a vegative state and having 24/7 care then the familly should have the right to decide to turn the machine off or take away the feeding tube personally i would ask my familly that if i ever got int othat state to turn the machines off me i would like to die how i want to die i would like to go out with a bang doing something totally mad and wild at a nice old age and for people to have a party to celebrate my life not my death. also turbo dude Englands not wot its cracked up to be we are not even allowed to call a blackboard a BLACKBOARD we have to call it a chalk board but they are still allowed to all white borads white boards. also we not allowed to say would you like a black or a white coffee??? WTF there is way to much political correctness nurserys have been banned from singing the nursery ryme baba black sheep have u any wool im like wtf that is so sad im sick of being told how to live my own life what i can and cannot say yes i do no that cerntain things can only be done at appropriate time but its is every day.
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:34 AM

Hey... atleast england has some awesome concerts ^^

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:24 AM

ye true ^_^ me wanna go download festival all the tops bands ther but it soo expensive
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:54 PM

come to canada we have what i call "underpopulation" for how big we are
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